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Part VIII : Osho exposes travesty of FBI and police agencies’
investigation
On 20 September 1985, FBI, state police, county police, The
Dalles police and the Rajneeshpuram Peace Force set up an office
in Rajneeshpuram to investigate crimes by Sheela. They cancel
all interviews with Osho. More than 70 subpoenas are issued to
sannyasins to attend state and federal grand juries, 7 search
warrants are issued to raid offices in commune. Osho's attorney
Swami Prem Niren warns of arrest warrants issued for Osho and
sannyasins on INS fraud. Osho accuses government agencies trying
to destroy commune instead of investigating crimes, and on 24
September 1985, calls a press conference to expose them.
The press conference is introduced by Isabel: "Osho, I have
told the press that you will first make a statement and then they
could ask questions."
I welcome you all. I had to give you the trouble to come here
because there has been FBI people, State Police officers, Wasco
county police, Attorney General's office people, to investigate
the case against Sheela and her fascist gang. I offered them my
own interview, four times they gave the appointment, and all the
four times they canceled it. There seem to be a certain conspiracy
going on. I want to make that conspiracy open and available to
the public.
We were cooperating fully. Our police, our sannyasins, were
going and revealing facts concerning all kinds of crime that have
been committed while I was in isolation and silence. It was really
strange that they should not take my interview. They should have
taken my interview first. I represent the heart of my whole commune.
I live for these people and I will die for these people. Rather
than asking me for an interview, they went on postponing and canceling
appointments. And the reason was that they were trying to protect
the criminals. They were not taking any step against the criminals.
And they were trying to persuade people to betray the commune.
They were giving as a bribe, that "We will give you immunity."
We were supported them, we were revealing everything on our own
accord. We wanted the criminals to be punished. But behind the
screen was Attorney General and he was trying a totally different
thing. I have known dirty politicians, but not so dirty as this
man.
All kinds of crimes have been committed, murder, attempts to murder
many other people…
We were trying to help FBI and all these other agencies. Why
they were afraid to take my interview? The reason was, they wanted
to find few people who can protect the criminals and can indicate
false names, innocent people, that these are the real criminals,
so that the community can by destroyed. One of the FBI person
was being heard by sannyasins, he was saying, that "We are
going at least to imprison five hundred sannyasins." All
those sannyasins who are very essential for the life of the commune,
to cripple it. They were not interested at all about the crimes….
Just now people are coming, because the fear, the terror of
Sheela and her gang is finished, they know now they can say the
truth. I wanted to cooperate with the government, with the law,
but the government has its own designs. Its design is to use the
excuse of Sheela's crime who has already gone out of country with
twenty colleagues. A good chance for them in the name of those
twenty people who are out of country— just blame innocent
people and force them into jail.
Not taking my interview was essential to do this, because I
was going to reveal everything. First they said, "You cannot
record it." I insisted that "It has to be recorded,
because in the court you may change." It was a strange situation,
as if I was the interrogator and they were the criminals. You
cannot take a video tape of it. I insisted.
I said, "We will not release it to the public, we can give
you the guarantee, written, but the video will be taken, because
we know that you are not worthy of any trust. This video will
be a proof that things are totally different and you are presenting
before the court different people."…
I wanted to say all these things to FBI and all other state government
agencies and wanted them to ask me, interrogate me, so I can go
into details. But they are not interested in the criminals. Their
interest is that somehow the criminals has escaped, it is good.
Now find people who have done small things, for example, this
girl who has driven two people who burned the planning office,
now give her immunity and make her say that who were those two
people, any two people they choose.
That's what they are trying to do with K.D. (Krishna Deva, Mayor
of Rajneeshpuram) K.D. has not gone with Sheela's group, he is
hiding in California and trying to make a deal. He is a politician.
He is trying to make a deal with the Attorney General, that "If
you give me immunity, then whatever you say, I will say."
I would like the press to support this small minority against
the whole dirty political regime. Help so that real criminals
can be caught and should not be protected and make it sure that
no innocent people are harassed. That is the desire of the Attorney
General. That's why they never wanted to interview me. I wanted
them first to interview me before the press so the whole public
knows. What is the fear? I should be afraid. Why you should be
afraid? They refused that, they refused video, they refused taking
a tape and finally, they refused that they don't want to take
my interview at all. And all this time they were continuously
enquiring the Attorney General on the phone, for everything. To
cancel the interview or not, to let them have it on the video
or not.
It is your duty and responsibility to expose this dirty state
of affairs. We are ready to support the law and the constitution
and we are ready to help them catch all those twenty people, because
we are keeping an eye on them, we know where they are. We have
sannyasins all over the world. When they were in Zurich, Zurich
sannyasins were looking after them. When they went into Germany,
German sannyasins were looking after them, watching. Now they
are in France. Wherever they will go, my people are there. But
FBI does not seem to be interested even to inform the Interpol
that these people have committed crimes, they should be brought
to America.
Perhaps if Sheela comes back…or perhaps FBI people are already
making deals with those criminals there, that they are not criminals.
They are capable of making deals and can give them immunity and
then any innocent person can be imprisoned, for ten years, for
twenty years, for his whole life.
I have called the press just to make it clear to the people that
it should not be allowed to happen. And when we are helping and
cooperating, they don't want our cooperation. Just now I have
heard that because I have called the press conference and I am
exposing them, they are packing their suitcases and they will
escape. Strange, you belong to the federal intelligence department,
you belong to the state police, you belong to the county police,
such cowards. You cannot face a press conference. Rather than
packing their suits they should have been here, because they have
been here for seven days. And we have been their hosts and we
have been helping them in every way. We gave them our hospitality
and they are giving us their criminality.
It is somehow a psychological fact that the criminals and the
people who belong to the police are not very different kind of
people. Just criminals employed by the government become FBI,
KGB, and criminals who are unemployed, those poor people serve
in jails or electrocuted or given death sentences, but I think
both belong to the same category of mind.
If you have any questions, you can ask. press04
Would you rather the investigators who've been invited go away
now, would you help them pack their bags and have them go? Have
you given up on the system?
First they have to take my interview before the press. Now that
is an absolute condition on which there will be no compromise.
Before I was ready to give the interview in privacy and keep the
video private till the case is over. But now, no. press04
Do you suspect any government hand behind Ma Anand Sheela's falling
apart from you?
There is a possibility that American government may have done
this, because I was in silence for three and a half years, and
in isolation. Sheela and her group was taking care of the commune.
It is possible that the government may have bribed them to leave
the commune, so it falls apart, because they were the people who
were taking care of everything. They left, but the commune continued.
Their leaving did not make any difference, because people were
intelligent enough. Fortunately only intelligent people are interested
in me. So everything was perfectly okay.
Looking backwards, it seems that there is a possibility, because
Sheela stopped purchasing even food, or other necessary things
which are needed to store for the winter—clothes and other
things—she stopped before she left. The day she left there
was no food at all. It seems pre-planned to create a havoc, a
chaos. Clothes are not there, food is not there. She left the
commune in great debt; perhaps twenty million dollars. And her
secretary says that she has a bank account in Switzerland of twenty
million dollars.
So there is a possibility that they somehow managed that if
the management, and the whole management, twenty people, with
Sheela escaped, without giving any reason why they are going,
without even seeing me for the last time to say goodbye. The government
may have hoped that this way the commune may fall apart. But it
didn't happen. People managed it, and managed it far more beautifully.
That was even more troublesome to them; they had failed in that
attempt. last420
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