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Part IX : World Tour - Development of Osho's work
For many, this world tour looks like a new beginning. Can you
comment on this new phase of your work?
It is a new beginning. It means that now I have enough people
in the world and I am making it impossible for nations to let
me stay long enough anywhere. I want to be on the road continuously.
I am a little lazy, so I need the support of the nations to deport
me, not to let me stay anywhere. Naturally I will be moving around
the earth, meeting my people more.
And I have my people everywhere. Even if they don't allow me
into the countries, I can meet my people outside the countries,
in the airports. socrat19
And now there are so many sannyasins around the world. They cannot
gather together to meet me—millions of people. The easier
way is that I should move and go to all those millions of people.
This will bring me more intimacy, more closeness.
When you used to come to me there were sometimes twenty thousand
people. You were sitting so far away I could not even see your
faces. I could not recognize you, and you had come from so far
away.
My new approach will be more intimate. I can look into your
eyes, I can hold your hands, I can sit amongst you. I can eat
with you. I can participate in every possible way.
I am not a messiah; I am not a prophet—because I am not
a hypocrite. I am an ordinary human being who has come to realize
himself. The difference between me and you is very little: the
difference of a person awake and of a person who is asleep. There
is not much of a difference. One who is asleep can be awake any
moment, can be awakened any moment.
My work is individual. I do not believe in the society, I do
not believe in organizations. I believe only in the individual,
because he is the only reality. All are only words; neither the
organization has a soul, nor the society has a soul—they
are just words, utilitarian but empty. Only the individual is
the living reality.
So I will be coming to your communes, small communes, big communes,
small centers, to be more deeply in contact with you. Whatever
I have been saying to you, I want you to experience it also.
I was again and again enquiring, that in the big festivals only
a certain group of people were sitting in the front, always, and
the others were sitting always far away at the back. They could
not see me, they could not feel me. They wanted people to rotate,
to change places: every day new people should be sitting in front.
I had absolute sympathy with their idea, but there was a trouble,
and the trouble was that I can speak to you only when I feel deep
intimacy. If I feel somebody is closed, suddenly I start losing
my words. When I see that somebody is receptive, my words start
having wings. They turn into poetry. They start expressing the
inexpressible. So only those few people were allowed constantly
to sit in front of me, so that I cannot be prevented by people
who are closed, new.
But moving from commune to commune, one small center to another
small center, there will be very few people. And I will be staying
there, not just one day or two days, I will be staying there as
much as you need. Unless I have turned you all into receptive,
vulnerable, open people, unless my presence has become a meditation
to you, I am not going to leave you.
Nobody has ever made such an effort on a worldwide scale. There
are going to be troubles, but each trouble is a beautiful challenge
and a great opportunity. It all depends on whether you know the
art of changing the worst into the best….
I want sannyas to become a worldwide phenomenon. It is already
ready to explode, and it has the greatest potential right now.
There is no other alternative, so you are in a great position
of power. We can make this whole world thrilled with a new vision,
with a new dream, with a new hope. The old man has lost all hope,
has lost all dreams, has lost all possibilities of growth, evolution.
Sannyas can bring the hope back.
You are the hope of the world. socrat03
My commune consists of people.
My commune consists of people's love.
They cannot destroy it; they have increased it. The number of
sannyasins has increased all over the world. And every day it
is increasing, for the simple reason that people have become aware
that the governments are afraid of me. That means I have some
message which can change the whole of society.
Just be patient and be understanding. Everything always goes on
going better and better—that is my experience. Whatever
happens, ultimately things turn out even better.
Now my commune has spread all over the world. The whole credit
goes to the fascist government of America. socrat22
Your peaceful experiment in Oregon has been destroyed by American
power. Many people who saw this happen doubt the possibility that
a new man and an environment for him to grow in can be created.
Can you please comment?
I can understand their doubt—but I am not a pessimist.
My peaceful commune in America has been destroyed by the ugly
fascist forces of the American government. That does not mean
that finally peace and love and freedom are going to be defeated.
That was only a battle lost. But a battle lost does not mean that
the war is ended. In fact that was the beginning of the war.
The attack on the peaceful commune in America has proved something:
that the American government is afraid of peace, is afraid of
silent people, is afraid of rejoicing people. It has proved one
thing absolutely: that a small commune can make the biggest power
in the history of man so afraid.
It has not been a defeat; it has been a victory. The destruction
of the commune does not matter, because my commune does not consist
of houses and roads; my commune consists of people, consciousnesses.
And it was good that the commune in America was destroyed by
America. Five thousand meditators have spread out all over the
world. They know how the commune was created, step by step—and
thousands of communes can evolve around the world; they are evolving.
Hundreds of new centers are opening because the people who have
lived in a commune, who have tasted the joy of a commune, cannot
live in a miserable society. They feel completely out of tune
so they have to create their own small groups which will start
becoming bigger and bigger.
If you see with my eyes, then I don't see that the destruction
of the commune in America has been a defeat. America has committed
suicide, has betrayed its own fear, opened and exposed itself.
If we have thousands of communes around the world, America and
the Soviet Union and countries who are thinking of very powerful
destructive weapons are bound to feel impotent. The people of
the commune have spread everywhere and they are opening new places.
They are bound to feel impotent.
I have become free.
First, America was so interested to throw me out; now they are
worried that my movements should be stopped. I was not moving,
I was simply living in the desert there. They forced me to move
and now they have become aware that this movement is more dangerous.
At least I was confined in a small place that was far away from
any neighbor. The closest town was twenty miles away, and we had
one hundred and twenty-six square miles around us of pure desert,
mountains and juniper trees. We were living there absolutely alone,
isolated from the world.
They were unnecessarily disturbed, and now they are repenting
about it because my people have spread all over the world. socrat19
Every government is worried. Cabinet meetings for an entry visa?—nobody
has ever heard of it. And parliaments deciding whether I should
be allowed in or not…And I am coming unarmed, not with an
army—but every country wants to decide, wants to take time,
and they go on telling my people that we are considering whether
to allow this man in or not.
Newspapers all over the world, in all the countries where I
have applied for an entry visa—just for a tourist visa—are
publishing that I am a dangerous man, don't let me in. Certainly
I must be a dangerous man; so many people cannot be wrong.
If they have secret cabinet meetings to decide…and not
only that, governments are asking other governments. For example,
every government is asking India if they should allow me in or
not. Every government is asking America if they should allow me
or not. And every government is asking Germany…Germany has
ordered that I should not be allowed in, and if Germany is so
afraid—one used to think that Germans are brave people—if
they are afraid, then naturally everybody is going to ask, "What
are your reasons for rejecting this man?"
So it is taking months to get the bureaucracy moving. Even if
the top man decides that the visa should be given, somebody in
the bureaucracy stops the process, stops the file, because he
is a fanatic Catholic, a fanatic Mohammedan, a fanatic Hindu,
or a fanatic communist, and then the whole process has to begin
again.
This does not seem to be really a free world. It seems there
are prisons in the name of nations, and you are not free to move
amongst human beings. And I am not asking them—their own
people, thousands of my sannyasins in their own country are saying,
"We have invited him." But they are being delayed…Parliaments
can delay, but they cannot stop. I will find a way to enter every
country. If they stop me, then there are courts, and my sannyasins
will go to the courts.
Just for a tourist visa you ask parliament, you have secret
meetings with the cabinet?—and for a man who is not going
to do any harm to anybody, who has never done any harm. socrat16
Just today I was told that one Greek newspaper has published
a really great fiction about me. It says that I'm hiding from
America. The American government is after me to catch me and to
bring me back to America for crimes like manslaughter, sex orgies,
arson.
America has banned me from coming into the country for five
years, and the paper is saying that I am hiding here and there,
from America, and their police are searching for me. This is not
a way of hiding: giving television interviews every day, newspaper
interviews every day. But people will read these things and people
believe these things. And now so much is written about me all
over the world in different languages that I never come to know
what is being written about me. socrat03
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